Unframe wrote:

GSR RoadRunner wrote:Lets get this clear. AT THE TIME, there was NO rule about pitting TWICE!
British first cleared all of his championship points to change his car to the Mclaren = LEGAL
During the race he ran flawlessly allowing himself to pit once = LEGAL
Now, where is this cheating huh? Did he run you off the track?
Read the rules, that is what they are meant for!
If you are complaining about being stuck behind him for 3 laps, tough luck that's racing - if he was illegally blocking, which he didn't as I watched the stream after the race which had you two battling for the most of it, then you would have reported him by sending in an incident report.

There is a difference between a lapped car, and a race contender. You have nothing to be annoyed at. You are in the best car in this series, you have no excuses. This is racing, and racing has rules. If you break them, you suffer the consequences. Nothing was broken with British first, so move on!

RR

Lets make this clear. You have had something to say after every race no matter where you finish. Notice how i said nothing to british first after the race? I wasnt bothered. But you get held up in like 2 corners and write a huge paragraph. This was my point in hand. You should be happy with where you finished instead of complaining after the races. I havent complained once after a race and thats that. Excuses? After catalunya all you did was talk about the z4 being op. After monza i didn't say a word! I congratulated the winner and moved on! And you complained again! And my first comment was just jokes and you took me super serious wich is unfortunate

1. There is nothing wrong with having something to say - what, you the opinion police?
2. You wouldn't have mentioned it if you wasn't bothered - and if that was the 'joke' you clearly need some assistance with constructing a joke, maybe something like 'JK' at the end of the sentence.
3. Am I wrong saying the Z4 was OP at Catalunya? Am I wrong for saying that it is the best car in this series?
4. Holding up a car that is trying to overlap is something to complain about, otherwise, what is the point of driving for position?
5. I am happy with my position, but would have just liked a better RACE.

RR

GSR RoadRunner wrote:

Unframe wrote:

GSR RoadRunner wrote:Lets get this clear. AT THE TIME, there was NO rule about pitting TWICE!
British first cleared all of his championship points to change his car to the Mclaren = LEGAL
During the race he ran flawlessly allowing himself to pit once = LEGAL
Now, where is this cheating huh? Did he run you off the track?
Read the rules, that is what they are meant for!
If you are complaining about being stuck behind him for 3 laps, tough luck that's racing - if he was illegally blocking, which he didn't as I watched the stream after the race which had you two battling for the most of it, then you would have reported him by sending in an incident report.

There is a difference between a lapped car, and a race contender. You have nothing to be annoyed at. You are in the best car in this series, you have no excuses. This is racing, and racing has rules. If you break them, you suffer the consequences. Nothing was broken with British first, so move on!

RR

Lets make this clear. You have had something to say after every race no matter where you finish. Notice how i said nothing to british first after the race? I wasnt bothered. But you get held up in like 2 corners and write a huge paragraph. This was my point in hand. You should be happy with where you finished instead of complaining after the races. I havent complained once after a race and thats that. Excuses? After catalunya all you did was talk about the z4 being op. After monza i didn't say a word! I congratulated the winner and moved on! And you complained again! And my first comment was just jokes and you took me super serious wich is unfortunate

1. There is nothing wrong with having something to say - what, you the opinion police?
2. You wouldn't have mentioned it if you wasn't bothered - and if that was the 'joke' you clearly need some assistance with constructing a joke, maybe something like 'JK' at the end of the sentence.
3. Am I wrong saying the Z4 was OP at Catalunya? Am I wrong for saying that it is the best car in this series?
4. Holding up a car that is trying to overlap is something to complain about, otherwise, what is the point of driving for position?
5. I am happy with my position, but would have just liked a better RACE.

RR

No further comment. I can see talking to you is a waste of time

And the winner is... lol

RR

we've asked the stewards to look at specifically what was highlighted in the stream. No matter what we say as broadcasters (and believe me, I was personally pretty ashamed of the cutting that was happening), the decision still falls on our stewards to decide what the appropriate action is. I think we are in a better place now than we were with the start of the V8 series, with regards to stewarding process. Hats off to the 2015 stewarding team for helping evolve it to a point that its a sustainable model.

Part of the problem with saying "the stewards should review every race to ensure there's no corner cutting", means that our stewards now have to look through up to 20 drivers per lobby, and watch their entire race. If there's something specific that is concerning a driver about another driver cutting, we would encourage them to file an SI. If there's no evidence, then there's no evidence...but now replays ARE saving so it can at least give our stewards some kind of direction. No one wants the stewards burning out because they are watching 40+ hours of race replays looking for any infraction. If you have a problem, report it. If we see a pattern of cutting on the stream, we're having the stewards look at it, without an SI filed. As for contact, that still requires an inquiry. Cutting that wasn't seen in the stream? Drivers still need to report it. Contact seen by the stream is not automatically filed, because both parties could be ok with what happened and not want to see the other penalized.

I wish we had the resources of the FIA where we could pay a team of 16 stewards to review the race live, but we don't have that luxury, and there's a limit to what you can ask from volunteers. I think we have a decent blend of reasonable action based on information that's in the hands of the public, as opposed to ordering the stewards to go scouting for infractions.

and on a lighter note, the videos are now available to watch!

I totally agree with what cyphon is saying. The stewards are volunteers and they do a great job. As I said earlier, if I at any point when over the track limits then I am man enough to put my hands up. With regards to the infringment that we are all talking about, the commentry team spotted it and your right, it's up to us as drivers to put an si in if we feel that the driver gained an advantage while doing this. It didn't effect my race ( at the back ) so I for one don't feel the need to say any more about it. I'm sure the person in question has probably read this string and feels quite embarrassed.

@Dover If TURN Staff see he is constantly corner cutting, they should uphold the rules of the site and SI it themselves, they can see it live, most of us couldnt.

Well if they seen LMR Hybrid cutting like that and staff have been notified, i cant wait to see the result.

GSR RoadRunner wrote:And the winner is... lol

RR

The one who actually understands what this conversation was about lmao. Thanks for proving all my points

Stug I got a working replay of Lobby B. But I don't know how long the replay is. If it has the whole race on it.
Just tell me where to look at and I'll supply the evidence for an SI.

Hit me up with a PM.